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Carla on Conference Call with Wynn Free – January 17, 2011
January 17, 2011
Wynn: Welcome everybody, this
is Wynn Free. This is Monday, January 17, 2011 and this is our internet live
broadcast on BBS Radio. We do this every week. We have different formats,
depending on different factors, except on the third Monday we have a standard
format. We have Carla Rueckert on as our guest, with Terry Brown, who is no
longer a guest, she's a host. Carla, are you there?
Carla: I am there. Hello,
Wynn. How are you?
Wynn: Fine, thank you. Terry,
are you there?
Terry: I'm here.
Wynn: I picked a topic and I didn't
run it by Carla, so she may say, 'I don't want to do that.' Did you have a nice
holiday, Carla?
Carla: I had a couple of
splendid holidays; very quiet and intimate and family and very pleasant. For
New Year's Eve we talked on the air. We did a question-and-answer show for
L&L Research. It was not party night for me; it was shared with my people.
Wynn: Were you channeling or
answering from your conscious mind?
Carla: I was answering
questions [from my own conscious mind]. We do this every week and Monica and I
talked about [whether to do] it. She's the one who is the moderator for that
and also for our forum on www.bring4th.org. She said, 'You know, I
really need Christmas Eve, but I'm not doing anything for New Year's. What
about you?' I said, 'We try to stay off the streets.' She said 'Let's do a
show, then.' That's what I did for New Year's Eve; I just hung out with my
seekers.
Wynn: When I was in high
school I had one of my few car accidents on New Year's Eve. Some drunk driver
came head-on and clipped me. I've tried not to go out on New Year's Eve since
that time.
Did
you have something special happen on Saturday?
Carla: Saturday—it was
special, Wynn. It surprised both Jim and me, but a whole bunch of people from
all over the globe wrote in thank-you notes on the occasion of the 30th
anniversary of our first Ra session and it was just the most moving thing. I
haven't finished reading them all yet. It just lifts you up so much to know that
you've made a difference. Everybody hopes in their life that they get a chance
to serve, a chance to make a difference. I've got a big, thick scrapbook of
people that wrote in and said, 'You made a difference and thanks a bunch'.
I
am in awe.
Wynn: [The letter I wrote]
was in there.
Carla: I haven't gotten to you
yet; thanks a lot.
Wynn:
Do you
know we wouldn't be doing this show right now, if it wasn't for you?
Carla: [Our material] has been
a wake-up call for a whole lot of people and I just feel so privileged and so
humble that I was able to serve. Hopefully, I still am serving. Somebody in their
thank you note said it so well, a guy named Jeremy. He said 'It's not just that
Jim and Carla were part of the group that channeled The Law of One
contact. It's that they're still kicking and they're still trying to serve. That's
living the Law of One. ' So that's the other part of The Law of One, and
that's the part that I hope goes on for a long, long time.
Wynn: I've got a feeling that
even when you leave this realm you'll still be kicking.
Carla: I hope I'll be saying,
'Alleluia, alleluia.'
Wynn: I would be expecting
all those people to get kicks in their heads and saying 'Oh, there's Carla! She's
back with the Ra group, but she's giving us a little kick.'
I
didn't tell Terry, or I'm sure she would have put something in there, I just
quickly got it out.
For
those of you who are listening and are not aware of who Carla is, I don't even
know if that's the right way, because who is anybody? It's what Carla has done,
not who she is.
Carla:
I would say
'has channeled.'
Wynn:
I can
tell you who she was. Who she is, is whatever she does tonight. Who she was: thirty
years ago, she was in a little channeling group, an experimental channeling
group. The guy that was the head of the group, I believe, was also a teacher of
hers in a college there. Is that correct? Am I getting that right?
Carla: He wasn't my teacher
but he was a professor. He was a professor of physics and mechanical
engineering and I wasn't a student of either. I went to his experimental ET
channeling group from 1962 onwards.
Wynn: 1962, Carla had been
experimenting with channeling from 1962 and in 1981 he asked a very
sophisticated question and the voice that came through Carla said and I am
paraphrasing this, 'I am Ra. You have called on us; you need us to answer the
sophisticated question. We are a social memory complex.' Carla went unconscious;
she didn't remember anything, she said.
This
was a whole new experience and for the next, I think, three years, they asked a
whole series of questions of this voice that identified itself as Ra. [The Ra
group], the way they explained themselves, is that they were a social memory
complex, or in simple language, a group soul.
They
were composed of graduates of this realm, beings that went through a period of
evolution here, got off the wheel of reincarnation, continued a period of
evolution in other realms and eventually teamed up to be, how many?—millions or
billions, I never know.
Carla: Of what?
Wynn: Of how many individual
souls comprised the Ra group?
Carla:
I don't
believe they ever gave a quantity to it, but when you think of how many people
are on a planet, I suppose it would be billions.
Wynn: Billions, okay. So the
Ra group is a huge conglomerate; they have sub-councils; they have all kinds of
organizations, but they don't have bodies. They're all operating in energy,
except for the ones that have decided to come back into this realm to help that
have bodies. Probably many of you who are listening might be in that category,
because there are millions of Ra souls in this realm, so they say, that have
bodies.
One
of the circumstances of coming into this realm from a higher dimension is that
once you're here, you don't remember that. According to her channelings, I
believe the figure is, 90% get caught back up into reincarnation episodes and
10% find their way to be of service.
It's
very hard when you come in from a higher realm, obviously, to be of service
down here, to know what to do and how to do it. I know that Carla's material,
her Ra material, has awakened probably tens of thousands of people on this planet
that say, 'Yes, that's it. I am one of those people who came in from a higher
realm to be here. I don't fit unless I'm of service.'
Some
of you listening are saying that to yourself and thinking, 'That's it!' And it
makes sense to you. That's a very big realization, I would say, because now you
understand why you don't fit in. Prior to that you probably thought you were
crazy, alienated; 'What am I doing here? How come I'm different from all these
other people?' You may have even gotten married and tried to be normal and
found out, 'What am I doing in this marriage? How do I work this? I don't fit.
This is boring.' Those kinds of people who have those kinds of feelings could
very well be Ra souls.
Usually,
if you're a Ra soul, not only will you only have those kinds of feelings, but
you will also have deep intuitive looks at people around you. I'm sure I'm a Ra
soul, just for the record. I'm sure I am. I remember when I was a kid, I looked
at people and I just understood them all. I said, 'When I grow up, I'm going to
meet people who really understand.' I couldn't engage them at the level that I
was understanding them. Do you have that experience? Do you look at people and
you can see deeply into them, but they won't reveal that part of themselves, or
it's not polite or whatever?
Carla
did a very heroic thing, bringing in all that information. The heroic part was
that there are negative beings in other realms that do not want this information
available in this realm. It actually has the power, if it was like 'full blast
out', to liberate a lot of this realm.
When
Carla started channeling this Ra group, she was attacked. She came close to
dying, she was disabled. She kept doing it. She had some inkling of the amount
of service that was involved in bringing this in and she didn't back down. After
a while the Ra group stopped coming in; after her partner left this realm she
started channeling the Q'uo group, which didn't leave her open to such attacks.
As
I've gone through this experience of interdimensional communication, I
experienced attacks, mostly through Daphne, who would get really attacked. When
she would be with me she would channel and I started to integrate this idea
that there were things in other realms that didn't want this to happen.
Those
of you who are listening, this is not like other things, and you've got to
reach back towards it; explore it and study it. For some of you, if you do
that, you will change your life path and you will change your future
incarnations; I'm sure of that. But, you have to reach back. It doesn't happen
just by itself. Carla, did I say everything okay?
Carla: It was great. Thank you
very much for that. I think about those days. It was a golden period in my
life. Of course, as you said, I was under a 'psychic greeting' all the time. There
are just so many stories! It was an adventure, I guess you'd say. I lost weight.
I kept losing weight, until I was having trouble keeping 80 pounds on my body. Don
kept begging me, 'Just try to get up to 85'. Fortunately, I have very small
bones and I never had any problems. It didn't cause me a health problem to lose
all that weight, but it was obvious that something was burning away a lot of my
physicality.
In
that state I was more open to infections: a sore throat became bronchitis,
became a staph infection. At one point in the sessions, Don was asked by Ra if
he would ask me to cough before I spoke. Don would ask the question and he
would say 'Please cough before you answer,' because the Ra group had to get it
together to get this body that they were working with to cough. There would be
this pause and then a cough.
We
plan to start selling the downloads of the actual sessions, as soon as we can
go through all of the rigmarole that you have to do to start offering them. There's
a lot of stuff that goes into it and they want Jim and me to tell people what
our memories were of each session; after the people listen to the session
they'll get Jim and me, just talking about it.
Wynn: They're going to have
to edit all the coughs, right?
Carla: I don't think so; I
think they're going to leave them on there, because the whole idea was, 'what
was it really like?' And it was kind of funny, what it was really like when the
coughing was there. At any rate it was an adventure indeed and it was quite
clear early on that what the 'greeters' wanted was for me to leave the
incarnation.
They
didn't make that; I really, really, really, wanted to do this service. Then,
too, I adored Don Elkins who was the Questioner in the contact. He was just a
wonderful, wonderful man and probably the single most intelligent, wisest man I
have ever met in my life. I knew him well; this is not something that I'm
saying because he impressed me. I lived with him for sixteen years so I know
him well. You can't say too many good things about Don Elkins.
I
wanted to do [the Ra sessions] for him, because he was a melancholy man. Remember
that song by the Moody Blues: 'I'm a melancholy man, doing what I can.' He was
like that; but he was happy when he was talking to those of Ra. I wanted to see
that look on his face one more time, so I always wanted to do the next session
regardless of whether I was fading or if I was keeling over. Whatever was
happening in the drama of the body, I just really, really wanted to do that
next session.
It
was a golden time for the three of us, Jim McCarty, Don Elkins and me. I pulled
up the first session and just to give you an idea of what it's like to listen
to Ra. Nobody had asked a question yet; he was just saying who he was. He said:
'Let
us for a moment consider thought. What is it, my friends, to take thought? Took
you then thought today? What thoughts did you think today? What thoughts were
part of the original Thought today? In how many of your thoughts did the
creation abide? Was love contained? And was service freely given? You are not
part of a material universe. You are part of a thought. You are dancing in a
ballroom in which there is no material. You are dancing thoughts. You move your
body, your mind, and your spirit in somewhat eccentric patterns, for you have
not yet completely grasped the concept that you are part of the original Thought.'
That
little paragraph gives you an idea of what Ra was like. The original Thought,
according to Ra, was love, the Logos. Remember how the book of The Gospel of
John starts in The Bible:
'In
the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God and the Word was God…'—and so forth.
The
word for 'word' in Greek is 'logos'. One of the definitions of the one great original
Thought that Ra offered was 'Logos'. As far as Ra is concerned, it's a universe
of love. He's asking us on the level of our thoughts, 'What are you thinking? Are
you thinking loving thoughts? Is love part of that thought? If not, where is
the love and why don't you go there?' Basically the inference is just good
advice. If you can move your mind to ponder thoughts of love; if you can think
of love when you're looking at the person to whom you are talking; if you can
keep love in mind when there is no love in the situation and everybody is
wrangling, then you bring love to the situation and you see what you can do
with that. Sometimes you can't do a thing. Sometimes you just have to sit there
and love and let it all happen around you. Sometimes you can make a really big
difference.
Wynn: Oftentimes, I find that
there's a situation that, if I go into it and I say certain things, the whole situation
turns around. The problem is, when I say those things it's going to catalyze
the situation. So the situation might not turn around, and everyone will
get mad at me. Usually, that never happens but I know there's an act of
volition that I have to take, and I have to be willing to risk where the
situation has settled.
Like,
maybe, I don't know if I've done this in particular, but sometimes people get
together and there's a social interaction and there are people who are
bitching, and they're negative and they're complaining. They're talking about
other people.
You're
in that situation and you can feel the energy of it. Then, you walk in and say,
'Listen, guys, if you're going to continue talking like this, I don't want to
be here. If you want me to be here, we've got to change the nature of the conversation,
or I'm out the door.' That really confronts people and they might say, 'See you
later.' You know what? I mean it. It puts it on the table so that it forces the
issue.
Almost
every time I've forced an issue, the situation has changed and people became
more present; there's more loving interaction. We start to talk about the
things that they were doing or that I was doing rather than doing them. When
you're in a circumstance like this, there is no judgment when people are doing
that, because it is so habitual. It is so normal that you can't blame them for
doing it. If you blame them, you're not going to be able to put love into it.
You've
got to open your mouth and provoke the circumstance either to move or to walk
out the door. You'd be amazed how that works. You also notice how hard it is to
do it, because, 'Oh God, if I do that, this is my daughter-in-law; she's going
to be mad at me. I can't say that to my daughter-in-law.' You'd say, 'I don't
want to rock the boat.'
You'd
rather stay in the situation as it is where everyone just bad-mouths everyone,
than to upset it. You have to have a little bit of courage to be willing to
upset it and risk it. I hope I don't get in trouble now and have all these
emails coming in from people saying, 'We did it, Wynn, and it didn't work and
now they won't ever talk to us again'.
That's
not Terry's style. Terry, how do you bring love to a situation?
Terry: I just carry it. At the
highest frequencies it's just really pure. If everything falls apart I just go
there and spread it out, just like drawing down a drape or putting it over it,
or like sending it and waiting until things cool down.
Wynn: The amazing thing about
Terry is, I've watched her and there could be a bunch of people doing the kind
of conversation that I just described, where they're just talking about people
and complaining about people. Terry would probably never do what I just
suggested. Somehow, she sits in that situation.
I've
watched the situation kind of like flow out of where it was to a new place
because Terry has the ability to—how can I say this? I've been using this
analogy of water and rock, where water wins when it comes up against a rock—and
if you just gently flow around it, you get on the other side, as opposed to
bumping your nose into it and confronting it. Terry seems to be able to put all
these fuzzy little angelic things around the rocks and they just go 'poof', and
disappear.
Carla: It's not really fuzzy,
Wynn. She's holding the truth, she's holding the light. It goes through and it's
like a lighthouse for everybody and they go on to that light.
Wynn: Right. Everyone has
their different style, but the question for everyone is, 'How do you move the
situation from where it is to love? How do you that?' If you keep asking that
question, something inside you will give you an answer and suddenly it'll work.
You'll transform all those difficult situations into loving circumstances.
Or,
you'll leave them, if you can. There's no reason to hang out in a circumstance
that's not loving. Actually, I won't say there's NO reason. There could be a
reason. Somebody could be paying the rent and you have to get along with them or
you're going to be homeless. That's a reason; I'm not saying you should risk
that.
Nonetheless,
I had a topic tonight and the topic was: 'Miracles and Phenomena'. One of the
things I have observed is that when you're involved with what we call
multi-dimensional consciousness, things happen in this realm that wouldn't
happen or couldn't happen without that multidimensional connection.
The
way I've come to understand it, is this realm is built from other dimensions,
except we can't see them. Mostly this realm is working by the laws of this
dimension. But, when you start bringing in dimensional frequencies from other
realms, you add a whole new realm of possibilities to the mix.
I
remember in one conversation with the Elohim, they said, 'You see it as a
miracle, but to us it's not a miracle. We just think it and it happens.' When
you start connecting with these guys -- and connecting doesn't mean you have to
channel. It could mean you come to these Conference Calls and you can feel the
frequency of the Calls; there is a frequency on these Calls. These sources are
actually energetic. I've learned this over time, I'm pretty sure of this
conclusion: that those sources are paying attention to these calls.
Their
frequency is here in the spaces. If you keep coming into these calls, you start
getting into those frequencies. As you get into those frequencies, you start to
have the potential to recreate things in the physical through the flowing-in of
frequencies from other dimensions.
Of
course, when you even think of the possibility of this, if you want to engage
positive group souls, you have to do things for the highest good of all
concerned, It has to be of very high intent and not violate free will. Beyond
that, magic can happen here. I've had a lot of magic; Carla's had magic;
Terry's had magic. Everybody wants magic. It's my hope that if we share a
little bit of our magic, the potentials for that might rub off on other people
and they'll take it home and find their own way of connecting with the
frequencies that can transform their lives and even transform this planet.
That
was my topic. So, Carla, is that okay with you?
Carla: That's fine.
Wynn: I am sure lots of
things [have] happened, and I don't know them all, in your life. I remember reading
this amazing story of Don Elkins flying a plane, I believe, and Uri Geller
fixing his plane from the ground.
Carla: That's right. I was
there. It happened.
Wynn: Why don't you share that
story? In terms of miracles—was that before you started channeling Ra?
Carla: Yes. It was in 1975. That year
we were asked to go to the Fort Smith conference of, I believe, it was MUFON, the
Mutual UFO Network, or it could have been Association for Paranormal Research. One
of those two UFO groups was having an annual meeting. It was a big 300-to-400
person meeting, and Don and I had been asked to be consultants on a movie
called The Force Beyond. After Don saw the last cut of it, he changed
the title to The Farce Beyond. But I digress.
We
went to Fort Smith in a 'Baron', it's a high-end [private, non-jet] plane; it's
sort of like taking a Cadillac. Don rented one, because we had Morris Hoagland and we had Elizabeth Hoagland with
us as well, and me and Don. We needed the four seats.
Wynn: Did you say 'Hoagland'?
Connected to Richard Hoagland?
Carla: It's no relation, [they
are of] the Kentucky Hoaglands. They were with us. We had done the shooting
that we intended to do at Fort Smith and we were on our way home. It was icing
badly, the windshield was completely covered. We were in a zero-visibility
condition; we could not see out of the airplane. Then, the 'horizon' failed. When
the horizon fails, you don't know whether you're straight in the air or whether
you're tilting to one side or the other until you fall off of one wing. We'd
fall off of one wing and then Don was able to recover and get straight again
until the next time we fell off to one side. We couldn't see out, you see. It was
a terrifying thing. It was completely dark; it was very cold; it was raining;
it was thundering. Don was doing his very best to keep us in the air, what he
was concerned about was running into something, a tower or even a very high
hill, because we weren't that far from Evansville, Indiana. It's a university
town, there's a lot of radio tower activity there. It was a tense moment.
All
of a sudden, the horizon started working perfectly. Of course, the horizon
[normally] never starts up again. A horizon is like a toy top. You spin it, it
spins and if it goes down it doesn't pick itself up and start spinning again; that's
the way a gyroscopic horizon works. It was a miracle that it started working
again. And Don didn't trust it so he put us down in Evansville and we stayed
the night and came home the next day. However, the horizon continued working
perfectly and they could find nothing wrong with it. It had been out for a
solid half hour before it came back on.
About
a month later, Don was 'deadheading' to Los Angeles to pick up a flight. He was
an airline pilot; that was his day job. He worked for Eastern Airlines; he was
a captain of a 747, a very good pilot. He had to get to work, so he was
deadheading to pick up an airplane and start his working day the next day in
Los Angeles. He was coming from Atlanta. He found out that Uri was going out
there too so he made arrangements to deadhead out on that flight. He was a little
early so he had some time. He wanted to talk to Uri. They were good friends at
the time.
Don
was talking to him and he told him this story and Uri said, 'Wait a minute,
wait a minute!' Don was sitting on one of two hotel beds in the hotel room
where Uri was staying. Uri says, 'It's a manila folder; look! It's on that bed
right by you. Pick it up.'
Don
picks up a manila folder, he opens it up and there is Uri's writing: 'horizon
went out?' He had felt the energy move through him at precisely the time—he dated
it and timed it—it was precisely the day and precisely the time when we were in
extremis in the air, falling over our wings, and Don just getting us back
up by his great skill as a pilot. Uri said, 'I think I fixed your horizon.' I
think he did too. We were mighty grateful.
Wynn: By the way, if you
don't know who Uri Geller is, in the 60's, I believe, the 60's or 70's, he was
the first guy…
Carla: Uri, [the book],
came out in 1974.
Wynn:
1974? He
was the first guy who was bending spoons publicly, bending spoons and forks on
TV with all the major shows. He would even tell people to take their broken
wristwatches or broken alarm clocks and put them on the television and he would
fix them. Remember that?
Carla: Oh, yes, I remember that.
The only time he had difficulty doing those things was when he was in the
presence of scientists who were very skeptical, of course. But even under those
situations, he was able to manifest enough demonstrative ability that he
worried the government greatly. He really did.
He
was doing something at Stanford University and there were classified research projects
in the same building, a couple of floors over him and a couple of floors below
him. He had no idea, but the energy that he was putting out when they were
doing the tests on him was messing with the government tests.
Of
course, it was inadvertent on his part, but it got the government very, very
suspicious and the poor guy was shadowed for years; I doubt that they're doing
it any more, but they certainly were then. They shadowed everybody connected
with Uri and with Andrija Puharich; Don was also a very good friend of Andrija's.
It
was kind of hairy for us there for a couple of years, because we were bugged so
much; our telephones were bugged so much that it was difficult getting a call
out. I'd just pick up the phone and I'd say, 'Okay guys, I'm calling my mom and
I'd like to apologize ahead of time. It's really going to be boring, but I need
to call my mom, so would you please give me a line?' Then I'd get a line; it
was that obvious.
The
thing that really baffled them the most was, one day I had a friend come over
while we were being so incredibly bugged and I was telling this guy the story.
I did not know this, but he had just taken an elephant dose of LSD, which he was
prone to do in those days. These were the days before he became a psychologist
so that he could help the people that he used to be.
Ralph
found out that the CIA was on the line and so he picks up the phone and he
starts rattling off numbers and words at random, and you could not do this if
you were in your normal state of mind, but he was very much free from all
moorings and his brain was sagging greatly in the middle. He just, for probably
five minutes, rattled off: 'five, telephone, computer, blankets, six, seven,
bowl, smaller, bowl, book'; I'm doing it, because I'm looking at things and
naming them. He wasn't looking at anything, he was just off. We had a whole lot
of activity around the house after that. I'm sure that they're still trying to
figure out that code.
Wynn: On the story of Uri
Geller, there was a little question mark on the story. The question was: Uri
obviously had awareness of this plane that Don was flying, but he didn't know
it was Don, did he?
Carla: He didn't know it was
Don and he wasn't even absolutely sure it was an airplane. He could just feel
the energy going through him and it felt like he was fixing a horizon; he just
got the impression that the energy was fixing a horizon, so that's what he
wrote down on this manila folder.
Wynn: I see.
Carla: He was not entirely in
control of his gifts and they sometimes scared him, especially when he would
heal. He didn't like to do that, he didn't like anybody to talk about it but he
could heal you.
Gene
Roddenberry was riding with him on the airplane one time. Uri found that he had
burned his hand badly and so Uri just put his hand over Gene's hand and held it
there for a minute. All the pain was gone and you could almost not even see a
scar; you couldn't see the blisters or anything. It was fading from red to pink
to nothing.
Uri
said, 'Please don't talk about this to anybody.' You know, Gene Roddenberry was
in a very nosy business; he was in show business and TV. If he started talking
about Uri healing his hand it would have been even worse for Uri than it was.
When
these things happen to you, when you get a gift like that, you're not in
control of the gift. It's a gift, but at the same time it's sort of running
through your system. That's something that I wanted to say about miracles and phenomena.
The
reason that we can be magic, the reason that you can be magic, the reason that
everyone can be magic, is that we are this unique being that is completely in
space-time, completely in the world of matter and weight and mass and physics
as we know it and we have this energy body that lives within us while we are
incarnate.
That
is the vehicle in which our soul stream moves into this physical vehicle. It's
hooked there by something called a 'silver cord' in spiritualist terms. The
silver cord hooks this energy body right along the spine and this energy body,
with all the chakras -- you've heard about the chakra; they are present in
space-time, but that's the time-space part of us. That's the magical part of
us; that is the energetic part of us. The energy is much more real than the
mass, the weight, the physics and all that.
When
we are free enough of our self-definitions as a limited being to use our energy
and to use it with great intensity and pure intention, wonderful things happen.
You've heard all kinds of stories about how a mom finds out her son is under a
car, so she picks up the front bumper. Mom could never, in a million years,
pick up the front bumper, but because it's her baby under there she gets it up
and gets him out. You hear stories like this all the time.
Wynn: You know the story of
my sister, right?
Carla: Yes. Why don't you tell
that one?
Wynn: I'll tell it really
fast. I've told it so much and there are newer stories, but that was the first
story that happened to me that got my attention. The Elohim—I had asked about
my sister in 2002. My sister had lupus. I asked them, 'Can you tell me
something I can share with my sister about her lupus that would help her?' They
said that in three months she was going to face a decision where she was going
to choose whether to live or to die. I said, 'Oh my God, that's not the answer
that I wanted to hear.'
Almost
three months to the day, I get a call from my brother-in-law. He tells me my
sister is going into the hospital, and she had this serious cancer and they aren't
sure she was going to survive. Then we did a channeling and I said, 'Excuse me,
can you guys help?' They said they could. The next thing I get is a phone call
from my brother-in-law that my sister is alive and that she survived the
operation.
At
this time, I was about four months into these communications and I didn't
believe that they were real. Daphne was tapping me and saying, 'Those guys want
to talk to you again.' They'd just say, 'Ask us questions.' They tell me
they're the Elohim and they created the physical universe. There's no way I
believed that. But they didn't ask anything of me other than to ask questions,
so I just asked questions.
Now,
a few weeks after my sister's cancer went away, I get another phone call from
my brother-in-law where he says, 'Her lupus disappeared.' She had to go in for
tests to see if the cancer had come back, and the nurse said, 'There's no cancer,
and there's no lupus.'
And
they kept testing her and there was no lupus. The nurse said, 'This can't
happen, because lupus never disappears from a test.' Now I go back in a
channeling and I say, 'How did you guys do that?' They said, 'It was like
putting a filter in her blood and taking the lupus out.' That knocked me for a
loop.
Imagine
there's an intelligence in another dimension, that's maybe at the beginning of
all dimensions. If you believe what they say, they can project energy through
all the sacred geometries, everything, and move right into my sister's blood
and take a pathogen out. That was incredible. My sister is still alive. She
didn't really get healthy. She still had a lot of things wrong with her, but
her lupus disappeared and her life has served a purpose since that time.
Terry,
as usual, you're sitting in the back and sending us your angelic vibrations.
Terry: I was thinking, when
people are in the situation you mentioned earlier, when people are talking and
you just don't judge anything they're saying, but you just put love/light in,
then it can dissolve some of the chitter-chatter. It takes non-judgment, just
loving them and getting them where they're at. Those are my thoughts.
The
stories about Uri Geller are fascinating. I love stories like how he fixed the
horizon. I had the story the other way around.
Wynn: We might continue this topic
for our next talk, Carla. I think that when you talk about these phenomena, it gives
people a kind of hope. I think so many people are jaded; they don't believe
this can happen. When I was younger, I wouldn't have believed it could happen.
There's
something you can learn from this: there's a way to project intention. One of
the things about learning how is, you have to be very careful. I don't know if
we should talk about that or not. That could cause people to start trying to
use the power of intention in a negative way or a self-serving way. The way
dimensions integrate and the way they blend so that we can access the
creational part of our energy body that gives us the opportunity to change
circumstances in the physical at hyper-speed; that's the potential. It's a
matter of slipping out of the consensus energy that everyone's clamped down
under. Carla, are you there?
Carla: Yes.
Wynn: It's 7:50. We probably
can be on for another minute. Why don't we take a moment and hold the space for
everyone that's listening? If you're listening and you're feeling an uplifted energy
and we're quiet for a little bit, why don't you put your request, remembering
the highest good of all concerned and not violating free will. Insert your
request into the higher dimensions for something that you would like to
transform in your life or for someone you care about, or even for the planet.
Is that okay with you, Carla?
Carla: That sounds like a
lovely idea.
Wynn: Terry, is that okay?
Terry: Yes.
Wynn: Right now we're just
going to ask each of us to expand to the greatest and the highest of our
potential; to feel the energies of the connection with the higher realms. When
you feel that space, I want you to think with your highest thought, with your
strongest intention, of the transformation you'd like, remembering the highest
good of all concerned and free will. Do it right now; we'll leave about thirty
seconds for you to plant that seed.
[Pause.]
Wynn:
All
right, it's 7:52. Thank you, everybody who is on the conference call. Let's all
say goodbye to BBS listeners together 1, 2, 3:
[Wynn
un-mutes everyone's microphones so all can talk on the air and be heard.]
Callers: Goodnight! Goodbye.
Goodnight! Thank you.
Wynn:
Thanks
for being here tonight, Carla. Her website: www.llresearch.org.
She has loads of her channelings up on her website. If you like the expanded
space, read her channelings, it helps you hold that space. If you want to know
more about my work, Terry's work and Daphne's work [the link is] www.intelligent-infinity.net.
We'll see Carla in a month and we'll see some of you on Wednesday when you
submit your questions to questions@messageaday.net
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